Content Warning: Contains discussion of sexual assault. Had Griffith never been tortured I feel like Casca and Guts would only had a sibling like relationship. As far we know, Casca is a virgin and therefore doesnt know sex (or at least she doesnt know it as a respectul/love act, since she almost got raped). I feel like Guts protects Casca because she represents the "good old times" of when they were all together and happy. Well,this has been a long time coming. The sum of things is what makes the whole event so bizarre and disgraceful. I thought the article was actually very fair, though there were just a couple knit-picky things I could say about the author's comments related to the treatment of females and how it is problematic from a feminist standpoint (I say this as a woman myself, but I also respect the author's right to an opinion that diverges from my own). Female-on-male sexual assault is barely spoken of by any men because they're dismissed as liars who must have wanted it.). Obviously this is not something she's into. Now this reborn guy is feels her up in front of her current lover and the whole demon host, and then starts raping her with a 20-inch demon dick. Excellent post and a great article, I've definitely suffered from the same sense of conflict in regards to this topic as well. This was his way to hurt and humiliate Guts as deeply as possible. Most portrayals of that stereotype seem to view that Tragic Background as ultimately enhancing a character's personality. I also was very interested in the author's interpretation of the whole "adult attack" scene as commentary on the cruelty of adults. I noticed lots of topics regarding the reletionship between Guts and Casca (which is comprehensible), but I also noticed that people tend to focus much more on the romantic side rather than on the sexual side of it. It draws attention to Guts flaws, it keeps him from acknowledging his mistake in leaving until its too late, and even now Id be willing to bet that the fix Casca sidequest is going to turn out to be a mistake on Guts part thats indicative of his fatal flaws, namely this fatal flaw. And like, whatever, still definitely worth it. Like I dont think youre wrong to interpret the story as Casca seeing her self worth through a relationship with Guts, so much as I think Miuras wrong for implying that to be the case. I think thats why she needs to have this moment. Not a mistake you can blame Guts or Casca for because they shouldve known better or smthn like that, but a mistake in the sense that it lead to a lot more bad than good happening, the same way Guts leaving the Hawks was ultimately the wrong call even though he had the best of intentions and it arguably seemed to have a positive affect on him as an individual. I actually wrote a paper in undergrad about the way the rape of men is treated in culture (actually, Berserk is part of what inspired me to write it). Still, Guts soon became disillusioned by Gambino's apparent care when Gambino sold him like possession to another mercenary named Donovan. If chapter is not working/broken, please comment below. Watch all of it eat away at your ability to live your life. It looks like your Reddit account is new. Blame yourself for it happening. Hello! This is how Casca feels about that when confronted with the actual reality of his dream. I was lurking reddit the other day and I found this post about guts choosing casca over his revenge on griffith. She is a girl who had to gain respect and a certain high rank position in a all male mercenary squad, had to face sexist comments and avoid the constant possibility of being raped. Ive kind of said this in some other posts too but I think itd be handy to have a nice and orderly list to link to so Im just throwing it all out in response to you. Spoilers ahead for Berserk chapter 367! But to address your message in more detail than that post does, tbh I think its kind of meant to be a little contradictory. Yeah I mean saying she died is a big exaggeration lol, I assume anon meant that their interest in her character died tho idk for sure, but tbf her character role did completely change and I def understand preferring Casca as Guts rival over Casca as Guts love interest. Incredible Griffith fan art by @e_i_s_h_u_n (Twitter). Despite the violent flashback and the virginal fumbling both of them consider sex together to be a positive experience. That she based so much of her self-esteem on the hope that Griffith would return her romantic feelings, rather than her own worthwhile life that she seemed proud of, that her unrequited feelings drove her to suicide? Like, legitimately, Guts and Cascas relationship makes me more inclined to read Guts as gay and repressed lol, because the sex scene and like, well pretty much everything about how Guts relates to Casca, just reads as such blatant repression to me. Yeah like its one thing to ignore the many negative aspects of their relationship, including sexual assault, when you want to write cute fic or just yk, talk about and enjoy whatever aspects you actually enjoy about the ship. So my conclusion about this matter is: If you think she enjoyed it, you can be 1) immature or 2) lacks empathy or 3) a sick pervert. Shit on his dick or blood on his sword, one way or another some guts are gonna get rearranged. =). sorry for misunderstanding, and ty for clarifying. yeah I think we can assume some tentacles probably went in there. Guts's relief after talking to Casca about his guilt and shame definitely dances into that "a bad man just needs a good woman" trap. Griffith crossing paths with Guts for the first time in more than 100 chapters was bound to elicit some of the most twisted tendencies of manga's most traitorous character, and the latest chapter of Berserk indeed shows him perpetrating one of the most despicable acts he's ever committed - even when . I hope this means something has changed (although the Berserk musou game Yeah, I know). I can't imagine anything worse to happen during a rape than being forced to receive some sort of bodily pleasure from it--to feel betrayed by your own body. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. But what happens to Guts having sex with Slan and Griffith confession to Guts ? I think the significance of that part kind of escaped me until now because I was too busy going, "The fuck is this?" Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. On the one hand, I agree that "throw in more male rapes" is not really an answer to the problematic use of rape in Berserk. What is Miura getting at? what with the whole thing about shoving her metaphorical heart in her metaphorical chest while its covered in metaphorical thorns. They will insist in thinking you want to be treated that way no matter how much you express your disgust. And like, tbh I dont think Miura really gives much of a fuck about Guts/Casca as a romantic relationship lol. Broadly speaking, Guts is a deconstruction of the Tough Macho Man With A Tragic Background But A Heart Of Gold. The fact that her body reacts in a way that she does not want it to adds whole other layers to Miura's narrative of how disgusting rape is. also tbh I think the anime is to blame for a lot of the fandoms interpretation of g*tsca. Well,this has been a long time coming. Rather, anyone who says Casca "wanted" it is ignorant and foolish and no matter what poses Casca was drawn in they would have spouted the same vapid shit. lol i didnt even predict the fetus showing up in cascas mind, idk. And like a lot of people consider Guts fucking that apostle on page one to be ooc and so they dismiss it, which yk, I guess is a fair opinion, but I always thought that scene was entirely in character myself and honestly kind of a great way to open the story lol, in part because its so unrepresentative of Berserk as a whole. Shes the one who seized Doldrey and won the hundred year war! The appeal to me isnt about examining gender roles or the effect of misogyny or w/e, the appeal to me is hot women with the same dynamic as the m/m ship I love lol. Please note that there might be spoilers in the comment section, so don't read the comments before reading the chapter. And there simply was no way around it for Casca. Dont blame her, she forgot she is a woman is a line who explains this very well. Of course this isn't nearly enough to do what he did, and that's where the Beast of Darkness comes in. Like eg anime Guts ultra romantic I never want to stop holding you or w/e the line was complete with Touching Music vs manga Guts come with me because I want to fuck more complete with Ominous Eclipse Foreshadowing. She could still seduce Charlotte, and convince her not to marry and to take on the mantle of Queen Regnant with Griffith at her back, advising her every step of the way and being her emotional support. Its not a simple matter of Casca straightforwardly being more important to him or just choosing Casca over Griffith. So the explicit nature of the portrayals of rape in Berserk (at least initially and at key points) I think is praiseworthy, because it forces you to look and actually see what you know in your head is horrible but never really allowed yourself to think about in such explicit terms. In fairness, Casca didnt get any grief when she became a recognized war hero and got knighted, so while Griffith would have another barrier standing between her and success, it might still work fine. Anyway, sexual violence is such a major theme of Berserk that I understand how some people can't get into it (which is a shame bc it's a work of art). Her entire mercenary career is defined by her desire to please Griffith, a sentiment that Judeau later identifies as an unhealthy worship of him. I have mentioned this several times in various threads on r/Berserk, but I think it's very significant that all three primary characters--Guts, Casca, and Griffith, have been exposed to sexual trauma in one way or another and that we are shown the detrimental affects it has on them. Cascas also still a woman in this, so you get an epic complicated f/f/f/f love quadrangle into the deal. The one for Griffith is kind of a childish thing because she idolizes him (she was a little girl when he saved her and she says something like i couldnt be his wife not I couldnt hold him in my arms), while the love towards Guts is a mature and profound love, based on a mutual romantic and sexual attraction, its a grown-up Casca who comes to understand herself and her feelings. 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